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nevertheless when you think about speaker boehner and switch to senator mitch mcconnell whose instant reaction to the president being re-elected was this is not a mandate, how do the republicans find the compromise? i believe it was the headline on politico well before we got into the heart of the campaign season that said speaker boehner's job was specially trying to hurt cats referring to some members of his caucus. >> that's a good analogy. the president came very short of saying, i won, you didn't. he said, you know, look i want to compromise. everything's on the table. i want to hear your ideas. but the people have spoken and we need to get moving here. speaker boehner is from the old school of let's get something done. he has been hijacked and hamstrung by the right flank of his party, and i think what he was trying to say the day after the election is you know okay. i'm with you. let's try to get this done. i'm ready to jettison some of the loons, the far right in the party, and try to work with democrats to get a compromise. the other thing is they're both using squishy langua
nevertheless when you think about speaker boehner and switch to senator mitch mcconnell whose instant reaction to the president being re-elected was this is not a mandate, how do the republicans find the compromise? i believe it was the headline on politico well before we got into the heart of the campaign season that said speaker boehner's job was specially trying to hurt cats referring to some members of his caucus. >> that's a good analogy. the president came very short of saying, i...
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question now is whether he has some points of leverage against the tea party wing and whether mitch mcconnell and some of the more adult members of the republicans in the senate can put pressure on the house. if they can't change those fundamental dynamics, we're heading in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is a problem because he's up for re-election and he's worried about getting a challenge from the tea party right. mr. boehner said this is your moment, mr. president, now lead. that's an acknowledgment of reality and a bit of a trying to pass the buck, but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into those negotiations and to lead and to continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. >> but he has to lead -- >> let me help you out. >> he has to lead publicly as well because the election -- >> sell. >> he has to sell it. there aren't a lot of republicans i think at play from -- in regards to public pressure, but there are a few, and the president is going to have to work hard to find points of pressure on those people -- >> let's try -- >>
question now is whether he has some points of leverage against the tea party wing and whether mitch mcconnell and some of the more adult members of the republicans in the senate can put pressure on the house. if they can't change those fundamental dynamics, we're heading in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is a problem because he's up for re-election and he's worried about getting a challenge from the tea party right. mr. boehner said this is your moment, mr. president, now...
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combine that on the other side with mcconnell as michael just pointed out and you have is there still a grover norquist impact, or has that evaporated or gone by the election? does that still exist, that pressure on republicans that sid signed in pledge. >> grover publicly stated that the american people did not vote for an increase in taxes. that they kept republicans in the house and the senate to stop any tax increases. so, of course, the pressure continues. john boehner is dealing tw two tensions. he's trying to explain to his conference they have to increase leverage. they don't want to see a middle class tax hike as a result of them standing firm on all the brackets and then us going over the cliff and them being blamed. a political fight that would bruise them through 2013 and into '14, the year they want to pick up a majority in the senate and consolidate their majority in the house and look to the white house in 2016. so he's trying to convince them of the longer view while dealing with the fact many of them are extremely frustrated. they don't believe obama has a mandate, an
combine that on the other side with mcconnell as michael just pointed out and you have is there still a grover norquist impact, or has that evaporated or gone by the election? does that still exist, that pressure on republicans that sid signed in pledge. >> grover publicly stated that the american people did not vote for an increase in taxes. that they kept republicans in the house and the senate to stop any tax increases. so, of course, the pressure continues. john boehner is dealing tw...
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you mentioned speaker boehner, the other thing to watch out for is the fact senator mcconnell, normally a kaubs, very cautious politician by nature will look over his shoulder to make sure he doesn't face a tea party challenge. all of that together, i think, makes it a toxic atmosphere and something we will have to all watch carefully. >> now you -- do you believe that the president is giving up leverage if the republicans don't believe he'll go over the cliff? >> yes. >> and you think he has sent a message that he's willing to go over the cliff? >> i think he sent the message and i'm prepared to reiterate that. >> you think the president is willing to go over the cliff? >> i believe that he is prepared -- >> i have not heard that from him. >> you are looking at the fact that come january 1st if there's no agreement taxes will go up on everyone. including the middle class. i think that's a politically unsustainable position. that the republicans are going to come to regret but, yes, you're right. you haven't heard it yet from the president. he needs to keep his flexibility open as we go
you mentioned speaker boehner, the other thing to watch out for is the fact senator mcconnell, normally a kaubs, very cautious politician by nature will look over his shoulder to make sure he doesn't face a tea party challenge. all of that together, i think, makes it a toxic atmosphere and something we will have to all watch carefully. >> now you -- do you believe that the president is giving up leverage if the republicans don't believe he'll go over the cliff? >> yes. >> and...
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mitch mcconnell actually saying he was basically open to it. i'm not taking this as wow, the republicans have reinvented themselves and this is a nuj republican party and a huge change for the future. this is an aaffirmation about something about how the system is supposed to work. this is why i thought was most important in this election was what were the tactics of the republican party the last four years. their opposition party tactics of total obstruction to politically destroying the president of the other party. were those tactics validated. if they won power back by doing that, it will normally behavior by the opposition party our system is not billed for. the behavior of the republican for the last four years works in a british system where the only function of the opposition party is to oppose and obstruct any way they can. they just oppose. here the opposition party has a real meaningful role. they have to govern in some way. what i see from republicans are signs that they are going to return at least in the near term to being an actu
mitch mcconnell actually saying he was basically open to it. i'm not taking this as wow, the republicans have reinvented themselves and this is a nuj republican party and a huge change for the future. this is an aaffirmation about something about how the system is supposed to work. this is why i thought was most important in this election was what were the tactics of the republican party the last four years. their opposition party tactics of total obstruction to politically destroying the...
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does the president have confidence or belief that the other side, that would be mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader, or john boehner, the speaker, are up to a big deal? >> i don't know if he has confidence in boehner and mitch mcconnell but he certainly has confidence at this point in the idea that the american people, the majority of the american people, back the whole idea of tax increases on the wealthy. the white house said pre-election polling and postelection exit polls show that more americans -- chris: how do you put together -- everybody watching has an opinion on that. the very wealthy should pay their share at least and not avoid it. but they also seem to applaud every time either candidate on either said said we got to work together. >> the white house dream would be to see boehner peel away some republicans and work with the democrats in the house on the deal. that's what they want. chris: will paul ryan join john boehner, the speaker, in trying to work out a deal? or he will be a rejectionist and set up the big rebel flag and say i'm going to be the die-hard?
does the president have confidence or belief that the other side, that would be mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader, or john boehner, the speaker, are up to a big deal? >> i don't know if he has confidence in boehner and mitch mcconnell but he certainly has confidence at this point in the idea that the american people, the majority of the american people, back the whole idea of tax increases on the wealthy. the white house said pre-election polling and postelection exit polls...
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i think boehner and mitch mcconnell will say no increase in tax rate, 35% is it. i think the president will concede on that point. i think bainer and mcconnell will then accept the idea of cutting culling or capping the deductions each individual and the higher brackets can take, set a top limit on the deductions they can take and that will increase the revenue flow into the federal government. at the same time, the two congressmen, republicans, preserve the rates argument. they won't make all of their folks happy, but i think that's the deal in the works. >> greta: a couple of problems. number 1 is, the fact that -- today at least, i am always stunned when -- with the exception of senator tom coburn, i barely hear anyone talking about the tremendous amount of waste and fraud. we put up the example of the guy in the bathtub with the wine glass, which is a tiny, tiny bit, but it's representative of the mind-set here. no waste and frawpd fraud. they won't raise the tax rates, but when you do put caps on deductions, you are raising the effective rate. i mean, i guess
i think boehner and mitch mcconnell will say no increase in tax rate, 35% is it. i think the president will concede on that point. i think bainer and mcconnell will then accept the idea of cutting culling or capping the deductions each individual and the higher brackets can take, set a top limit on the deductions they can take and that will increase the revenue flow into the federal government. at the same time, the two congressmen, republicans, preserve the rates argument. they won't make all...
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if senator mcconnell and speaker boehner don't bend, do you still believe the president should go right up to the brink and over the fiscal cliff? >> here we are, our country has a tremendous debt and deficit problem. we also have a challenge in making sure that we educate our workforce, we need to make sure we care for our veterans who need that care today. we need to have research and we need to be able to compete in a global marketplace, those investments are important. everyone who has looked at this, including the supercommittee that i served on, said we need to have revenue as part of the solution to this problem as well as looking at entitlements and spending cuts. what has been the missing ingredient in congress to date is revenue and make sure that it's fairly distributed and the wealthy pay their fair share. that's what we face right now. if our republican counterparts can step forward with that revenue piece we'll be able to find a solution. >> and if not, go off a cliff? >> well, clearly, we have the ability between now and the end of the year to not go off the cliff, but we
if senator mcconnell and speaker boehner don't bend, do you still believe the president should go right up to the brink and over the fiscal cliff? >> here we are, our country has a tremendous debt and deficit problem. we also have a challenge in making sure that we educate our workforce, we need to make sure we care for our veterans who need that care today. we need to have research and we need to be able to compete in a global marketplace, those investments are important. everyone who...
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mcconnell very well. can you explain to me and his viewers how he believes he and not the president has a mandate, despite democrats increasing their number in the senate, winning the presidential election and not winning the house, mostly because republicans jerry manneded so many districts. >> primarily i'm not sure he believes it but he's saying it because he's talking to a different audience than we are and most of the country is. i think he's in a very difficult spot. i don't think he really faces a serious threat from thinks right in kentucky but he doesn't want to do anything that's going to invite one. meanwhile, his real vulnerability is if he's the one seen blocking a deal that everybody in the country and everybody in both parties wants. so, i think he's trying to negotiate this, sounding tough for his right flank but also i think the important thing to watch is what he does. and if he lets his members, the other 44 republicans in the senate kind of do what they're going to do, make the comprom
mcconnell very well. can you explain to me and his viewers how he believes he and not the president has a mandate, despite democrats increasing their number in the senate, winning the presidential election and not winning the house, mostly because republicans jerry manneded so many districts. >> primarily i'm not sure he believes it but he's saying it because he's talking to a different audience than we are and most of the country is. i think he's in a very difficult spot. i don't think...
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yourself, how do you assess what's going to happen with republicans like speaker john boehner and mitch mcconnell? how does the president persuade them to lay down their pledges to grover norquist and commit to the nation? >> well, ultimately the president is not going to persuade them. ultimately the voters have to persuade them. i think john boehner and a few others in the republican party have got to tell eric cantor and paul ryan and michele bachmann and a lot of the tea partiers in that party, if you continue to insist that taxes are not going to be increased on the rich, we are not going to ever gain or regain control of the senate. we're going to lose control of the house in 2014, 2016. we're going to become a permanent minority party because it makes no sense to most americans. >> hit them where it hurts. professor robert reich, thank you. >>> next, how far will the president go in the showdown against john mccain. >>> but first, hampton pearson has the cnbc market wrap. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. we saw stocks move lower again on more wall street fears of going over the fiscal cl
yourself, how do you assess what's going to happen with republicans like speaker john boehner and mitch mcconnell? how does the president persuade them to lay down their pledges to grover norquist and commit to the nation? >> well, ultimately the president is not going to persuade them. ultimately the voters have to persuade them. i think john boehner and a few others in the republican party have got to tell eric cantor and paul ryan and michele bachmann and a lot of the tea partiers in...
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find ten republicans in the senate, cut the deal with tom co-burp, bob corker, lamar alexander, keep mcconnell out of it, do it with 65, 70 members of the senate, cut the deal, bring it over to the house, box -- which boehner secretly might want to be boxed in, by the way, box boehner in maybe it goes down the first time, a la t.a.r.p., we will see did the president learn anything from his first term how to deal with congressional republicans, don't do it through the leadership? >> house gop fall in line, a tough conferenccall with him. i want to bring in jim crimer are, host of cnbc's mad money. he is in new york. we see in the course of the campaign a lot of corporate ceos could become natural allies of the president. what he a resolution to this fiscal cliff business business. >> they have to, david, can give the wrap a recession by christmas, we can set it right into place without some agreement. the ceos have, in many ways, mo tore lose than anybody, why the market got hit this week and the market will continue to be hit until year end or an agreement. >> explain further what the economic
find ten republicans in the senate, cut the deal with tom co-burp, bob corker, lamar alexander, keep mcconnell out of it, do it with 65, 70 members of the senate, cut the deal, bring it over to the house, box -- which boehner secretly might want to be boxed in, by the way, box boehner in maybe it goes down the first time, a la t.a.r.p., we will see did the president learn anything from his first term how to deal with congressional republicans, don't do it through the leadership? >> house...
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mitch mcconnell made a statement saying the voters have not endorsed the failures or successes, simply given him more time to finish the job they asked him to do, together with a congress that restored balance to washington after two years of one-party control. now, not so fast. the actual number of votes cast for house seats favored the democrats by a half a million votes. this is no man dade for house republicans, but of course they're trying to swing a big stick again. there's a reason. republicans were able to capture more house seats with a majority of the vote. for example, look at pennsylvania in 2008. take a good look. where is the red? a lot of blue district, right? take a look at pennsylvania in 2012. wow. what happened? there's a lot more red. it's because democratic districts have been jerry mandered into unwinnable seats. you know, those republicans are pretty slick. reliability blue districts in the southwestern and southeastern part of pennsylvania were combined into comfortable red districts. real clear politics reported that last year pennsylvania underwent the gerryma
mitch mcconnell made a statement saying the voters have not endorsed the failures or successes, simply given him more time to finish the job they asked him to do, together with a congress that restored balance to washington after two years of one-party control. now, not so fast. the actual number of votes cast for house seats favored the democrats by a half a million votes. this is no man dade for house republicans, but of course they're trying to swing a big stick again. there's a reason....
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mcconnell does not see it that way. on the political wire the romney's campaign would have could have should have transition website today. surely, this was not supposed to go live until mr. romney actually won the election. the campaign did not wait. they presumably accidentally put it up, a transition website for president-elect romney, how to apply for a job with the new romney administration. looks like because they screen shot it before they finally did take it down, looks like the romney folks had a transition motto all ready to go, a slogan, repeated slogan on the website is smaller, simpler, smarter. when republican speaker of the house john boehner gave his first post election press conference what he thought should happen in this country given the results of the election almost like he thought he was speaking in the context of president-elect romney and smaller simpler smaller branded transition. >> by working together and creating a fairer simpler cleaner tax code, moving to fairer simpler system energized by
mcconnell does not see it that way. on the political wire the romney's campaign would have could have should have transition website today. surely, this was not supposed to go live until mr. romney actually won the election. the campaign did not wait. they presumably accidentally put it up, a transition website for president-elect romney, how to apply for a job with the new romney administration. looks like because they screen shot it before they finally did take it down, looks like the romney...
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now today mitch mcconnell is willing to do a 1 to 1 deal. republicans lost all of their leverage in this election. they made a big gamble and came up empty handed. in 2011 president obama was cutting deals with john boehner on the golf course. it was very favorable for the republicans. the president agreed to more than $1.2 trillion in cuts, benefit reductions of social security, raising the medicare eligibility age and actually lowering tax rates on the wealthiest americans. now in the end, republicans, what do they do? they rejected the deal. they wanted more and the way to get it was to beat the president of the united states in november. the president fought back almost a year ago. he announced the message of the reelection campaign. the same place where teddy roosevelt gave birth to progressivism. >> do we want to make the investments we need in things like education and research and high-tech manufacturing, all those things that help make us an economic super power, or do we want to keep in place the tax breaks for the the wealthiest a
now today mitch mcconnell is willing to do a 1 to 1 deal. republicans lost all of their leverage in this election. they made a big gamble and came up empty handed. in 2011 president obama was cutting deals with john boehner on the golf course. it was very favorable for the republicans. the president agreed to more than $1.2 trillion in cuts, benefit reductions of social security, raising the medicare eligibility age and actually lowering tax rates on the wealthiest americans. now in the end,...
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>> i guess -- you always ask that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> excuse me, you, mr. hoyer, mr. clyburn, you're all over 70. is it going to prohibit younger leadership from moving forward. >> so you're suggesting that everybody step aside? >> i'm simply saying, does this -- >> i think that what you will see, and let's, for a moment, honor it as a legitimate question. although it's quite offensive. but you don't realize that, i guess. the fact is, the fact is, is that everything that i have done in my almost decade of leadership is to elect younger and newer people to the congress. in my own personal experience, it was very important for me to elect young women. i came to congress when my youngest child, alexandra, was a senior in high school, practically on her way to college. i knew that my male colleagues had come when they were 30. they had a jump on me, because they didn't have to -- i did what i wanted to do. i was blessed to have that opportunity, to sequentially raise my family and then come to congress. but i wanted women to be here in greater numbers at an ea
>> i guess -- you always ask that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> excuse me, you, mr. hoyer, mr. clyburn, you're all over 70. is it going to prohibit younger leadership from moving forward. >> so you're suggesting that everybody step aside? >> i'm simply saying, does this -- >> i think that what you will see, and let's, for a moment, honor it as a legitimate question. although it's quite offensive. but you don't realize that, i guess. the fact is, the fact...
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do you think the president needs a beer summit, mitch mcconnell, john boehner? the three get together and figure out how to work together. >> we need to get everybody in the room. everybody should be at the table, and everything should be on the table, and the time is now to do that. >> my power panel, thanks so much, gentlemen. i appreciate your insights. coming up in just a few minutes, i'm going to have a chance to talk to dnc chairwoman, congresswoman debbie waserman schultz will join us. >>> congresswoman gabby giffords will come face to face with the shooter who nearly took her life and the lives of 11 others. >>> why are we waiting on florida once again? we're going to talk to debbie wasserman schultz about her home state. president obama reelected. what should be the first thing on his agenda? . ♪ 99 bushels of wheat on the farm...99 bushels of wheat! ♪ [ male announcer ] yep, there's 8 layers of whole grain fiber in those mini-wheats® biscuits... to help keep you full... ♪ 45 bushels of wheat on the farm. 45 bushels of wheat! ♪ ...all morning l
do you think the president needs a beer summit, mitch mcconnell, john boehner? the three get together and figure out how to work together. >> we need to get everybody in the room. everybody should be at the table, and everything should be on the table, and the time is now to do that. >> my power panel, thanks so much, gentlemen. i appreciate your insights. coming up in just a few minutes, i'm going to have a chance to talk to dnc chairwoman, congresswoman debbie waserman schultz...
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"senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said that gop lawmakers will wait for mitt romney to take the lead on immigration policy. most members are interested in what romney has to say about this issue and we're going to withhold judgment until that tim time." mr. romney was not just the de facto leader of the republican party. he was the stated leader of the republican party. now that he's lost the presidency, nobody thinks he's going to continue to play the leader of the republican party. mr. romney is likely to move to la jolla, california, to spend more time with his car elevator. but in his short time as leader of the republican party, when he was their presidential nominee, he made leadership decisions about the party. about what the party looks like to the rest of the country. he made leadership decisions particularly in terms of who he would dignify with his embrace. who among everybody in the republican party he, mitt romney, leader of the party would privilege. who he would elevate. he elevated the republican guy who wrote arizona's papers please immigration legal cause. he w
"senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said that gop lawmakers will wait for mitt romney to take the lead on immigration policy. most members are interested in what romney has to say about this issue and we're going to withhold judgment until that tim time." mr. romney was not just the de facto leader of the republican party. he was the stated leader of the republican party. now that he's lost the presidency, nobody thinks he's going to continue to play the leader of the republican...
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the republicans remember when mitch mcconnell said make sure he is a one-term president. the president will be thinking about his legacy wanting to get things done. they lost voters by 56 percent. all that suggests to me is the president says something teaching the fiscal cliff i am willing to have 3-1 spending reductions as well as tax increases and pro growth tax reform package you can get something done there. >> president's second term notoriously difficult and the fact is the president won real election he didn't give as much of an agenda for his second term during the campaign. what do you expect from him that he has to worry ever again about reelection? >> go back to 2010 where they had the great mid term election. republicans think compromise is the answer for their political future. i would say think about what president obama did that ended up helping him win a huge reelection. he decided not to compromise he decided to double down on liberal i am. he marketed it in a new way he found inflexion points with women voters. he did it masterfully with jim macina and
the republicans remember when mitch mcconnell said make sure he is a one-term president. the president will be thinking about his legacy wanting to get things done. they lost voters by 56 percent. all that suggests to me is the president says something teaching the fiscal cliff i am willing to have 3-1 spending reductions as well as tax increases and pro growth tax reform package you can get something done there. >> president's second term notoriously difficult and the fact is the...
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yeah, but it's -- if it's demint versus mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell wins. >> and he's going to win this thing. the question is how do they manage -- >> what do you do? >> -- republican leaders have not figured out how to manage the base. that's a fact. >> the whole campaign on the president level, they get pushed to the right. >> thatd don't know how to manage. >> because of the conservative bubble. on the down ballot level they nominate candidates who come out of that bubble and a policy or -- >> or they did mainstream candidates like george allen who feels the need to placate -- >> of course. and on policy. and on policy, there's a roadblock from moving towards stances on issues like immigration because you're going to get blowback from the base. but keep in mind what happened yesterday township it wasn't just john boehner who moved on immigration. sean hannity said he had evolved on the immigration issue. election type consequences. >> this is the problem i feel like. that your natural tendency in politics is to say, we'll let our voters work their will. that's always there. we'
yeah, but it's -- if it's demint versus mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell wins. >> and he's going to win this thing. the question is how do they manage -- >> what do you do? >> -- republican leaders have not figured out how to manage the base. that's a fact. >> the whole campaign on the president level, they get pushed to the right. >> thatd don't know how to manage. >> because of the conservative bubble. on the down ballot level they nominate candidates who...
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there are holdouts, leading them chief ghoul himself mitch mcconnell: >> bill: no, no, loser, you don't get to talk about failures when you were a gigantic failure. you lost seats in your party. shh. let me bring in the rest of the crew here. anna, you know as i just said that i've never seen any of the conservatives say we're outnumbered, lost the country. this is something new isn't it? >> it is new. i think that it's great that they've realized that this conservative idealogy isn't winning anymore. we talked about republicans abscessed with redefining rape. these kind of topics are not popular with the american public. i don't know why they continually wanted to talk about it. we passed so many different ballot initiatives that are so liberal. for instance, two states right now have legalized marijuana for recreational use. three more legalized gay marriage. that's a big deal. >> bill: we're on the march. i never thought we'd see that in the war on drugs. they're going to lose on that. and they lost on gay marriage. they're losing on everything, michael. what they do, what do rush li
there are holdouts, leading them chief ghoul himself mitch mcconnell: >> bill: no, no, loser, you don't get to talk about failures when you were a gigantic failure. you lost seats in your party. shh. let me bring in the rest of the crew here. anna, you know as i just said that i've never seen any of the conservatives say we're outnumbered, lost the country. this is something new isn't it? >> it is new. i think that it's great that they've realized that this conservative idealogy...
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so mitch mcconnell is the missing piece of the puzzle here. he's the person the president has had the least success in dealing with. they have no personal relationship whatwhatsoever, th president and john boehner played golf once or twice. boehner as a person is of a more amenable guy. the white house wants a deal, and the reason they want a deal is because of the economy. if we get tangled up here in d.c. and go over the cliff or down the gradual slope, it's not -- it's not going to be good for the economy. there are people waiting to invest. there's a world watching. everybody agrees that if a deal can be cut, economies around the world, not just in america, are going to benefit. >> yeah. i think the consequences aren't immediate if we get to january 1st, but i'll get into that later. i have a monologue -- >> psychologically they're immediate. >> let me ask you about within the democratic party, then. if the white house's priority is to get a deal, and the bottom line for house republicans is no rate hikes, if the white house were pursue th
so mitch mcconnell is the missing piece of the puzzle here. he's the person the president has had the least success in dealing with. they have no personal relationship whatwhatsoever, th president and john boehner played golf once or twice. boehner as a person is of a more amenable guy. the white house wants a deal, and the reason they want a deal is because of the economy. if we get tangled up here in d.c. and go over the cliff or down the gradual slope, it's not -- it's not going to be good...